Todd Cordell: Bill Peters out as head coach of the Calgary Flames

A brave new world indeed. How times change. Revisionists rejoice.
Now the millionaire players have the power and control the league to control the quality of the on-ice product. Coaches/all staff will be like teachers who are now afraid to hug an upset kid for fear of a lawsuit and/or a sexual assault charge. Book it.
For that matter, how long before old time coaches like"Punch" Imlach and Toe Blake get booted from the H of F?

Laviolette clocked Leino in the back of his head on the bench. Easy video to find.

I want him fired

Not a peters fan but really ? Chased out of the game over comments made 10 years ago ? This is what a soft pathetic world we are shaping for next generations well good luck cause now there is nothin that can be said in any way shape or form that wont offend someone and what about statute of limitations ?

Not a peters fan but really ? Chased out of the game over comments made 10 years ago ? This is what a soft pathetic world we are shaping for next generations well good luck cause now there is nothin that can be said in any way shape or form that wont offend someone and what about statute of limitations ?
- Hockeyfan4life14

How very edgy of you. This word he used should not be used "in any way shape or form" because it's racist. Grow the (frank) up.

Not a peters fan but really ? Chased out of the game over comments made 10 years ago ? This is what a soft pathetic world we are shaping for next generations well good luck cause now there is nothin that can be said in any way shape or form that wont offend someone and what about statute of limitations ?
- Hockeyfan4life14

The NHL is about to have it's own #MeToo movement....

You aren't kidding about this softy world. I got my daughters report card this year and it says " she regularly demonstrates sportspersonship " I nearly yakked after I read it 4 or 5 times to realize what the hell I was reading

How very edgy of you. This word he used should not be used "in any way shape or form" because it's racist. Grow the (frank) up.
- IggyOnly

What Peters did was wrong... but why wait 10 years ? and why does it automatically cost a guy his job ? and now everyone associated like Ron Francis is probably going to get canned too.

It's not like the player is a shining example of being a good citizen himself.

What Peters did was wrong... but why wait 10 years ? and why does it automatically cost a guy his job ? and now everyone associated like Ron Francis is probably going to get canned too.

It's not like the player is a shining example of being a good citizen himself.
- Reveen

Aliu very clearly explained why he waited so long, it's genuine and makes perfect sense.

It doesn't automatically cost a person their job, but when you're in such a public facing position and have responsibilities in the community, public opinion matters. If he's a construction worker or any regular job, he doesn't get fired for comments from 10 years ago.

We'll see if there's any fallout, I doubt it to be honest. Francis had nothing to do with the racist comments and they handled the kicking stuff at the time so I dont see him losing his job. All that's happened is Peters lost his job, no need to blow it out of proportion until things actually happen.

What Peters did was wrong... but why wait 10 years ? and why does it automatically cost a guy his job ? and now everyone associated like Ron Francis is probably going to get canned too.

It's not like the player is a shining example of being a good citizen himself.

A) Don't blame Aliu - victim blaming is one of the worst takes in terms of this situation. He was a player who felt like someone in a position of authority detrimentally impacted his career. Frankly, Peters might be lucky he doesn't get sued here along with Bowman and the Blackhawks

B) Ron Francis, if he didn't escalate player abuse to his owner and, if he didn't actually deal with the abuse in any way shape or form SHOULD be fired. If Tre also performed his due diligence and this wasn't raised, now Francis has a credibility issue with every other GM down the road.

C) It didn't automatically cost him his job. But when you factor in that racist comments are likely not isolated incidents or feelings, that he then subsequently physically assaulted players on the bench and that a head coach in the NHL is a face of the franchise, the potential future impact to his credibility with players had to be in question.

Frankly, it's disappointing reading most of the comments on here. People saying things like "this used to be a man's league" in reference to how players are treated are maybe forgetting that these players are humans and that, in no other professional setting, would this type of behaviour be tolerated. The "N" word has been non-negotiable for a long time, he (should have) known it was wrong then, it should have never come out of his mouth, and he should have resigned right then and there.

It's pretty clear that, based on the story of the 2 other players, as well as Aliu himself, that Peters had not resolved the issue, and his approach to send him down when there was further issues is a reflection of his character.

What Peters did was wrong... but why wait 10 years ? and why does it automatically cost a guy his job ? and now everyone associated like Ron Francis is probably going to get canned too.

It's not like the player is a shining example of being a good citizen himself.
- Reveen

Completely agree. And ironically(?) we're talking about a game where injuring a player for half a year gets you 2-4 games suspension.

Ok everyone in Hockey Hall of Fame or associated with the game in any way shape or form that used that word should be disassociated with the game for ever !! What a Pandora’s box this has opened !! Also if they call each other it like they do why is it so wrong for someone else to say it ?

What Peters did was wrong... but why wait 10 years ? and why does it automatically cost a guy his job ? and now everyone associated like Ron Francis is probably going to get canned too.

It's not like the player is a shining example of being a good citizen himself.
- Reveen

I think Francis will be okay.

Brind'amour said that after it was brought to Management's attention they addressed it with Peters and he never saw any further incidents.

Better never hear hick or red neck ever again !! That offends me !! Lol
Hurts my feeling !

Better never hear hick or red neck ever again !! That offends me !! Lol
Hurts my feeling !
- Hockeyfan4life14

okay hick

What Peters did was wrong... but why wait 10 years ? and why does it automatically cost a guy his job ? and now everyone associated like Ron Francis is probably going to get canned too.

It's not like the player is a shining example of being a good citizen himself.
- Reveen

But it's so much tidier to just condemn these people in the court of Twitter opinion and then act as if they never existed. "Problem solved. Next problem please."
Just millennials repurposing Mormon shunning / Catholic excommunication is how I see it.

So much better than the Chinese who insist on trying to correct errant behaviour in their re-education camps - don't you agree?

Better never hear hick or red neck ever again !! That offends me !! Lol
Hurts my feeling !
- Hockeyfan4life14

Way to not learn anything from this entire situation...

Aliu very clearly explained why he waited so long, it's genuine and makes perfect sense.

It doesn't automatically cost a person their job, but when you're in such a public facing position and have responsibilities in the community, public opinion matters. If he's a construction worker or any regular job, he doesn't get fired for comments from 10 years ago.

We'll see if there's any fallout, I doubt it to be honest. Francis had nothing to do with the racist comments and they handled the kicking stuff at the time so I dont see him losing his job. All that's happened is Peters lost his job, no need to blow it out of proportion until things actually happen.
- 13sundin13

It's already happening with Francis... he knew about it and the former Canes owner tossed him under the bus.

A brave new world indeed. How times change. Revisionists rejoice.
Now the millionaire players have the power and control the league to control the quality of the on-ice product. Coaches/all staff will be like teachers who are now afraid to hug an upset kid for fear of a lawsuit and/or a sexual assault charge. Book it.
For that matter, how long before old time coaches like"Punch" Imlach and Toe Blake get booted from the H of F?
- itwasin

If you don't think that players have had power in the past to have coaches fired, you're oblivious. Dany Heatley had coaches fired, the entire Ducks team had Carlyle fired years ago... it's happened forever and a day.

Bad leaders should not lead.

A) Don't blame Aliu - victim blaming is one of the worst takes in terms of this situation. He was a player who felt like someone in a position of authority detrimentally impacted his career. Frankly, Peters might be lucky he doesn't get sued here along with Bowman and the Blackhawks

B) Ron Francis, if he didn't escalate player abuse to his owner and, if he didn't actually deal with the abuse in any way shape or form SHOULD be fired. If Tre also performed his due diligence and this wasn't raised, now Francis has a credibility issue with every other GM down the road.

C) It didn't automatically cost him his job. But when you factor in that racist comments are likely not isolated incidents or feelings, that he then subsequently physically assaulted players on the bench and that a head coach in the NHL is a face of the franchise, the potential future impact to his credibility with players had to be in question.

Frankly, it's disappointing reading most of the comments on here. People saying things like "this used to be a man's league" in reference to how players are treated are maybe forgetting that these players are humans and that, in no other professional setting, would this type of behaviour be tolerated. The "N" word has been non-negotiable for a long time, he (should have) known it was wrong then, it should have never come out of his mouth, and he should have resigned right then and there.

It's pretty clear that, based on the story of the 2 other players, as well as Aliu himself, that Peters had not resolved the issue, and his approach to send him down when there was further issues is a reflection of his character.
- rmull905

I'm not blaming Aliu just questioning his true motivations.

It's already happening with Francis... he knew about it and the former Canes owner tossed him under the bus.
- Reveen

Nobody believes Peter Karmanos.

Dude has been a shyster since he first stepped into the public light. He threw Jim Rutherford under the bus out of nowhere after working with him for 30 years. He was sued by his own sons for stealing from their trust fund.

I think Francis will be okay.

Brind'amour said that after it was brought to Management's attention they addressed it with Peters and he never saw any further incidents.
- BINGO!

So you're saying that it depends on the circumstances? That it's not always black and white?

I think Francis will be okay.

Brind'amour said that after it was brought to Management's attention they addressed it with Peters and he never saw any further incidents.
- BINGO!

There is already articles floating around with MSM saying Francis is the next to take a fall for Peters.

It's already happening with Francis... he knew about it and the former Canes owner tossed him under the bus.
- Reveen

Right - because as the owner of a multi-hundred million dollar business - he had a right to know. Weird, hey?

Imagine, extreme case, a player is seriously injured by a coach and you then find out it's not the first time the coach has abused someone. The lawsuit potential is enormous. Not to mention the basic moral compass of ensuring your employees are not being mistreated generally...

There is already articles floating around with MSM saying Francis is the next to take a fall for Peters.
- Reveen

That's because Francis is still refusing to even talk about it. The longer he goes without saying anything, the more complicit he looks.

It doesn't help that he signed Peters to an extension the same year the Jordan incident occurred. Which is also the same season he traded away both Eric Staal and J.M. Liles, who were both part of the group that brought the incident to his attention.